Nazem Dabbagh the representative of KRG of Iraq in Iran in an interview with Nasim Bidary Monthly, concerning current situation in Iraq, resulting from the attack and occupation of Mosul made by ISIS, gave some speeches of which main phrases as followed:

In a response to the first question he answered that one of our concerns with Mr. Maliki dates back to his employing security and intelligence forces of Ba’ath in the body of the Army of Iraq and its security constructions. He said that KRG authorities along with some Shia political personifications about this warned Mr. Maliki many times, but he underestimated our warning.

Dabbagh continued to introduce ISIS and considered it derived from Ba’ath. Since just the same as Ba’ath he would follow to unify Iraq and Syria. Dabbagh added that 13 terrorist groups came to an agreement to occupy Mosul. He said the former officers of Ba’ath regime were employed in military and information positions who separated from the Army and joined ISIS.

Also Dabbagh stated that witnesses denote that ISIS forces were only 3000 when they attacked to Mosul. But the sleeping kernels including those 13 groups join ISIS. Thus Mosul with two millions only within six hours was under ISIS’s control. In a response to a question Dabbagh mentioned the three main political groups of Iraq including Kurds, Sunni and Shia and recited the interior grouping concisely. Furthermore he said that before ISIS attacking to Mosul nobody said he was a Kurd, Shia or Sunni. Presently such phrases no longer are made. He frankly said now Iraq has divided into three federals.

Additionally he said that after ISIS attacking to Mosul Pishmerga forces approached the regions in dispute between Iraq and KR, they did this to prevent this region from being occupied by ISIS and took the control of the posts. Another concern between the central government and KR is Kirkuk. In his view Kirkuk itself matters so much to Kurds but its oil. To prove that whether this area is a part of Kurds or not, the maps and historical documents should be referred.

About the Army fall against ISIS he added that in spite of Maliki’s spending $27 billion for the Army it did not put up any resistances against ISIS forces just having Kalashnikov and R.P.G. the reason was that the people was dissatisfied with the government and the authority did not believe in the central government.

He said presently ISIS has taken the control of three million people in a wide area that is larger KR and central government country. To control the people and the regions increasing day by day ISIS needs a budget. Thus the attempt to Kirkuk having oil and Biji having refinery is possible.

Dabbagh said adopting non-democratic policy from Maliki caused Sunni and Kurdish political groups were not such encouraged to collaborate with the government. Their cooperation with the government is just accordance with the benefits based on the number of seats of the parliament. In a such situation it is possible for Sunni and Shia to fight. In this fighting we will just preserve our region and will not support neither sides.

He continued to say the cases in dispute with Baghdad such as the regions under quarrel and oil in special in Kirkuk and added that Maliki’s second government was basically founded in Erbil, but then after being formed of the government they neglected all agreements and he know the reason as Baghdad concern for the Region’s getting power through oil sources.

Concerning Ms. Clinton’s charge of Iraq government’s being affected by Iran he said presently both the USA and Iran support Iraq government, nevertheless the concern of Iraq now is Mr. Maliki’s being unsuccessful in the post of Prime Ministry of Iraq. Dabbagh turned down the loss of a national personification and said Mr. Talibani is national one for all Iraqis. Additionally the president of KRG cannot act as the chairman of the parliament or as the president of the government.

The past indicates that Mr. Talibani’s policies were convergent with the policy of unity maintenance. He said now Iraq needs a Gandhi. He added that after eight years of having the reign it is better Mr. Maliki give this up and somebody else from the same party substitutes for him. At last Mr. Dabbagh said presently in Iraq there are national personifications, the politicians who have fought during history, they can be employed provided that they want Iraq to be preserved.        

Reporter: Dear listener, this is an interview with Mr. Mohammad Seddiq Ahmad, care taker of Iraqi Kurdistan mission in Iran. Mr. Ahmad, thank you for having this interview with us. As the first question Mr. Ahmad, earlier the leader the ISIL terrorist group has threatened that future goal is to capture Baghdad. In your opinion Mr. Ahmad, how much is this threat close to reality and is the ISIL capable enough in terms of equipment and manpower to put into action it treats?

Mohammad Seddiq Ahmad: Of course there has always been threat, but regarding to recent clashes between ISIL and the Kurdish Pishmerga forces and the heavy losses of ISIL forces, I think military power of ISIL has diminished. It means it doesn’t have the power and facility to launch a broad attack to a police, like Baghdad.  Capture of Baghdad is not an easy job and ISIL forces cannot do it. For besides the Iraqi Army there are popular forces. In my opinion the threat for capture Baghdad is not a real threat.

Reporter: You have red in the news that Yazidi’s of the northern of Iraq have evacuated the region after a number of them have been a kidnapped. Later we have that Kurdish Pishmerga manage to break the siege of Sanjar region which was used refused by Yazudis. Please tell us, how is the situation of the Yazidis at the moment?

Mohammad Seddiq Ahmad: fortunately, most of the people who lived in the mountainous region of Sanjar have been transformed to Dohuk province and stationed there. A small number of them have remained in the mountain and being given relief work. At the moment, the way is safe and secure to access them and assistance has begun and there is almost no problem. As per to the reports, a number of Izadi Kurds including women and children have been savaged captivated it. Of course, the figures differ. That is to say that we cannot present an exact figure. But what is certain is that some of the Izadi’s women have been taken as captive and will serve maiden according to illusive believes of the ISIL. The Iraqi Kurdistan government and its allies have taken all measures to defend Izadis and we hope that condition will turn in such a way that the captive, God willing, will turn to their families.

Reporter: as the last question Mr. Ahmad, the European Union approved they be all to send weapons for quenching terrorist in Iraq which in the case of west admitting the terrorist nature of the ISIL as a threat to the region and to the entire world. What can be expected from the world community which regard to the current development in Iraq?

Mohammad Seddiq Ahmad: Basically countering terrorism connot be limited to one country. Terrorism is global threat and international community should take wide measure to counter it. The EU and the Security Council statement were too helpful and effective moves in this connection to create the consensus, for struggling against terrorism, specially cutting the ISIL financial sources, blocking their access to these sources and prevent in their commutation are the measures can be affective.

We think that UN, EU, world community, regional countries, progressive forces that support democracy in Iraq should get united to eradicate and sinister phenomenon of terrorism in the region. This phenomenon is not threatful just to Iraqi and Syrian peoples, but it is a threat for the entire region. Furthermore, fortunately, there is a good unity on the regional forces and even inside Iraq to counter ISIL threats and has yielded positive threats. Withdrawal of ISIL forces in the recent days and staunch resistance of the pishmerga forces and with the support of the US air forces and the assistance of allies Kurdish and Iraqi people and have had positive results and we think the ISIL threat will not be a lasting threat. In sum, with the consensus that we expect the political sin of Iraq and the evidence that we witness of the designate of the new candidate for Prime minister and unity of Iraq people enforces supporting freedom democracy an law in the country and the region, God willing, we will be witness to removal of this threat from Iraq the region and the world. I would like to say that in any case there has always been threat in the region and the enemy should not be underestimated in the world. But, considering the recent defeat, inflicted on ISIL in north western front and the enervation of these terrorist groups forces, basically their military strategy will be focus on attack to preserve themselves. Therefore, the threat against Baghdad and other region can be evaluated in this view. Generally I do not think ISIL terrorists have such a power.

Reporter: Thank you for having this interview with us and appreciate you insight.       

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